| Chris Lowe: Hey, Nick. So bitcoin (BTC) is up 187% since you called it the “new crisis currency” and recommended it to your Casey Report readers June 2018. That’s a heck of a lot more than the U.S. dollar, or other fiat currencies. You wrote one of the most interesting reports on bitcoin I’ve read in a long time. You make the case that the reason you want to own gold and bitcoin over government-issued currencies like the U.S. dollar is because they’re “hard assets.” They’re both hard to produce more of. That means their value can’t inflate away. Gold is a physical thing. And a lot of folks view it as the hardest currency in the world. But you’ve been making the case that bitcoin is an even harder currency than gold, and potentially an even better store of value as a result. A lot of folks may get confused and think, “How can bitcoin be hard money? It’s digital. It’s not physical.” Could you explain why you’re so bullish on bitcoin? Why not just go all-in on gold? Why have bitcoin in the portfolio at all? Nick Giambruno: It’s an interesting question. And I know it’s one a lot of our readers are thinking about. Bitcoin is an entirely new phenomenon and asset class. It doesn’t fit into the mental frameworks most people have when they analyze investments and currencies. It’s a completely new thing – genuine digital scarcity. And that’s a very profound invention. You’re absolutely right – hard does not necessarily mean physical. It means hard to produce relative to its existing supply. That’s the proper use of the word, in the context of a hard asset. Another way to think of it is like this: Hardness is simply resistance to inflation, and in my view, that is the most important attribute of a good money. Chris: But if bitcoin is digital – like most dollars these days – how is it hard to produce? I think that’s a big stumbling block for a lot of folks. Nick: This is a subject we could talk about all day. But the thing you’ve got to grasp about bitcoin is, its rate of inflation is constantly decreasing. Readers may have heard of the “halving.” About every four years, the supply of new bitcoin gets cut in half. Look at gold, for example. The rate of increase in the supply of above-ground gold is about 1.7% a year. Bitcoin is right around that sweet spot, too. But unlike gold, the supply of bitcoin gets cut in half every four years. Here’s an easier way to think of the halving… There’s a euphemism that central bankers use for printing money. They call it “quantitative easing.” Well, here’s something that’s not a euphemism – bitcoin’s halvings are quantitative hardening. That’s really all you need to know about bitcoin. Bitcoin is becoming harder and harder, as government currencies are getting easier and easier. Over time this is going to cause a lot of people to dump their government confetti currencies and buy bitcoin – and gold – to protect their buying power. | Recommended Link | | It’s Your Turn
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Nick: Gideon was actually highly intelligent and an interesting individual. It’s not as if he didn’t know that printing money was going to cause a hyperinflation. He can put two and two together. But when you give governments the power to print money, they’re going to exercise it. In Gideon’s case, he mentioned there was pressure from the army and the military to do just that. And you don’t say no to people with guns when they tell you to do something – unless you have a death wish. That’s why central bankers shouldn’t exist. People don’t realize it. But central banking is not that old, in the grand scheme of things. The Federal Reserve, for instance, wasn’t set up until 1913. Central banks don’t add any value to society. All they do is redistribute wealth to insiders and connected political hacks while impoverishing everyone else. It’s completely toxic and should be abolished. And they give you these ridiculous notions like, “We need to have 2% inflation a year.” These people have no useful purpose. They should be abolished. The case of Zimbabwe is an excellent illustration of that. When governments have their back against the wall – as many Western governments have right now – what are they going to do? Are they going to shut down the printing presses? Of course, not. They’re going to print money. It’s the easy option. This happens only when governments aren’t constrained by a hard money that they don’t control – such as gold in the past and more recently bitcoin. Zimbabwe is a preview of things to come. Exactly the same thing can – and will – happen in other countries. Chris: A recurring question we get from readers is about bitcoin’s legal status. They worry that the feds might ban citizens from owning bitcoin just like did they with gold in 1933. [On April 5, 1933, President Franklin D. Roosevelt signed Executive Order 6102. It banned U.S. citizens from holding gold or gold certificates. This ban remained in place until 1964.] Nick: First of all, they can’t shut bitcoin down. No government can shut it down. Unless the internet goes down for the whole world, everywhere, simultaneously, they are not going to be able to shut it down. Trying to prohibit something that’s digital and borderless is completely impractical. I’d like to see them try, because they’ll fall flat on their face. Chris: So on a practical level, how should our readers approach owning bitcoin and gold in their portfolios? Nick: The easiest way to think of them is as alternative forms of cash. Cash can be used for long-term savings. And here, gold really shines. Gold has been used as a store of value for thousands of years. But bitcoin should be there, too. Bitcoin is an emerging store of value, so there’s that much more upside to it. But there’s also more risk. So I would have a healthy mix… but skew it toward gold. The other use of cash is for day-to-day cash expenses. So you might as well spend your central bank confetti for your day-to-day expenses and pass the hot potato on to someone else while it is still accepted. Chris: Thanks, Nick. Nick: Thanks, Chris. Anytime. 
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